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Is Shade Cloth Counterproductive to Plant Growth & More Organic Gardening Q&A

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John from http://www.growingyourgreens.com/ answers your organic gardening questions. In this episode, John will answer the following questions:

02:33 Do you recommend not using shade cloth?
05:06 Do you consider shade cloth to be counterproductive to plant growth?
05:35 Do you consider shade cloth an unnecessary luxury?
06:44 Does your growing system not require shade?
07:43 Does using a shade cloth go against your environmental friendly principles?
08:56 Do you consider using shade cloth a costly hassle?
10:37 Do you think it is possible to grow food in Lake Havasu City, Arizona?
12:18 With 4 to 6 hours of direct sun a day can I grow Greens, Tomatoes and other crops? If not should I just move?
16:44 What is your opinion on biochar?
18:33 How is the bagster one-time use dumpster in bag working to grow a raised bed garden?

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Backyard Garden says:

I think you kinda full of , well you know. Don't get confuse with the full sun and the heat. 6 hours of full sun at 75 degrees. Vs 6 hours of full sun at 110'. Big differences. Shade cloth reduces the heat. I guarantee you'll use shade cloth sooner of later.

MindVaccine says:

Sorry, but you are wrong. In the desert it is too hot for plants, that is why plants don't grow there naturally. Cooling the ground is not enough. If you can get trees established, it is great to use them for shade. But if you are just getting established, shade cloth is the only way. Also, shade cloth is not just for light/heat, it also protects against the dehydrating wind. Plants grow best between 75-85 F. and that is your target. You may think you can "just throw your plants out there", but in some climates that is just not possible, and your plants will just die. You just lost a lot of credibility here. Learn to be flexible and use what works. You are not pragmatic, just ignorant.

Jen D says:

Albuquerque, New Mexico at 5000 to 6000 feet, the plants will burn in the middle of summer. Even the "full sun" plants. It is best to plant in an area where there is half sun and half shade.

Jordan Gouger says:

I live in Austin, TX and unfortunately don't have any large trees or natural shade structures in my garden. Consequently, I have 12-14 of direct sun and summer temperatures that reach over 100 degrees. With the exception of okra, eggplant, and chilies, my garden comes to a grinding halt during the summer. With a shade cloth I'm able to get tomatoes all throughout the summer. Even the heat tolerant plants need to be watered constantly otherwise they'll die.

Matthew Armour says:

He's just being practical. Use shade cloth if you have to. Do you have to? What he doesn't talk about is WATER CONSUMPTION, UV, and climate control. Climate control for plant growing is a science. Not an opinion like BEST? or FOR OR AGAINST. If you need a simple answer go to church?

Rommel K. says:

Dear Sir. do you know of any organic liquid fertilizer that comes close to miracle grow fertilizer? thanks.

Carmelo Santini says:

Helpful video, thanks again for your fiver consult from a couple months ago. That's a nice backdrop behind you

Jeff Walther says:

You don't know what shade cloth is. My plants are cooking in the sun. I need to cool them down or growing plants is a waste of time and money.

Francisco Braga says:

Lol he doesn't know what a shade cloth is…

Coyote Spirit says:

does anybody know where i can get some shade cloth in so cal?

Coyote Spirit says:

lmao @john getting worked up brother

xmonks says:

PS: if you've ever been to Australia, you will get sunburnt in 2 hours. UV warnings are at "extreme" for virtually all summer, and some of Autumn. So to expect your plants will be ok with that is naive. Shade cloth is $50 to protect your valued plants. It's a no brainer.

xmonks says:

I'm annoyed by this sentiment, because the idea that "it needs to grow naturally"
Quick fact, not every crop we try and grow is suited to our exact climate. We try and emulate a great environment to grow the plants we love. We add shade, we germinate indoors, we add specific fertilisers, etc. So somehow a shade cloth is the devil, wtf? I agree with a lot of his experience, but there is a lot of hoodoo getting thrown around as well.

mike nace says:

I lost interest to much time promoting yourself in the first few minutes instead of being informative to the subject.

SlowAndH3avy says:

you should really learn what shade cloth is for before giving advices, some comments down here are good examples on how and when to use it

Tron says:

What about using shadecloth in a greenhouse to control the temperature?….In mine it can get up to 130 degrees in the summer with no shadecloth.

randy p says:

I use mine for the hail storms I am getting

Billdo O'Reilly says:

I just rigged up a couple old sheets to try to extend the time frame on my lettuce in the heatwave we're having. Seems to help cool it off a lot. When it cools back off I'll take it back off. 

James Ratzloff says:

Bottom line is that the crops I use the most – kale and swiss chard, will burn up at the start of summer in Denver. By using 50% shade crop I have them all summer long. This video should have explained more clearly that it is appropriate for some crops and some locations (not for root crops.) A lot of talking, not too much information.

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